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	<title>Comments on: talks &#8211; invention, innovation &amp; business models</title>
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	<description>Tim Kastelle &#38; John Steen</description>
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		<title>By: Creating value through new connections &#171; Innovation &#171; Innovation Leadership Network</title>
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		<dc:creator>Creating value through new connections &#171; Innovation &#171; Innovation Leadership Network</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] does a really nice talk on the invention of the computer and he has posted the slides on this blog. While he uses the story [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Where do valuable innovations come from? &#171; Innovation Leadership Network</title>
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		<dc:creator>Where do valuable innovations come from? &#171; Innovation Leadership Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 03:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] does a really nice talk on the invention of the computer and he has posted the slides on this blog. While he uses the story [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 05:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not quite sure what to make of this, but the slideshow has been &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slideshare.net/category/business-mgmt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;featured on the front page of the Business &amp; Management section&lt;/a&gt; on slideshare!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite sure what to make of this, but the slideshow has been <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/category/business-mgmt" rel="nofollow">featured on the front page of the Business &#038; Management section</a> on slideshare!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 00:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Marco!  I wouldn&#039;t call every innovation an invention.  The way I frame it is that innovations are always the actualisation of an idea, but inventing is usually coming up with a &#039;thing&#039; of some sort, so it&#039;s definitely more restricted.

I hadn&#039;t run across that work by Meadows before - thanks for pointing it out.  I&#039;ll give it some thought...</description>
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<p>I hadn&#8217;t run across that work by Meadows before &#8211; thanks for pointing it out.  I&#8217;ll give it some thought&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 11:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

I agree with your position that innovation is not the same thing as invention. An invention is not necessarily an innovation. But I am not entirely sure if an innovation is necessarily an invention. (I guess this will depend on how broad your definition of &quot;invention&quot; is?)

The second point is also important and striking. It seems that a whole lot of people are resistant to change *when change matters* (i.e. when it can potentially lead to a &quot;phase shift&quot; in the system).

The Monty Python illustrates nicely how the counterintuitive (counterintuitive for businesspeople) act of embracing rather than resisting such change can be beneficial. (And that &quot;resistance is futile&quot; - to quote one famous alien race).

Donella Meadows has said all of this before, many years ago (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_leverage_points). She also notes that people are very good at spotting such phasing-shifting changes yet they always end up doing the exactly wrong thing.

It is a mystery why no one has paid sufficient attention to this.</description>
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<p>I agree with your position that innovation is not the same thing as invention. An invention is not necessarily an innovation. But I am not entirely sure if an innovation is necessarily an invention. (I guess this will depend on how broad your definition of &#8220;invention&#8221; is?)</p>
<p>The second point is also important and striking. It seems that a whole lot of people are resistant to change *when change matters* (i.e. when it can potentially lead to a &#8220;phase shift&#8221; in the system).</p>
<p>The Monty Python illustrates nicely how the counterintuitive (counterintuitive for businesspeople) act of embracing rather than resisting such change can be beneficial. (And that &#8220;resistance is futile&#8221; &#8211; to quote one famous alien race).</p>
<p>Donella Meadows has said all of this before, many years ago (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_leverage_points" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_leverage_points</a>). She also notes that people are very good at spotting such phasing-shifting changes yet they always end up doing the exactly wrong thing.</p>
<p>It is a mystery why no one has paid sufficient attention to this.</p>
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