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		<title>By: IP protection and Open Innovation can work together (if you do it right). &#171; Innovation Leadership Network</title>
		<link>http://timkastelle.org/blog/2010/03/a-patent-is-not-a-business-model/comment-page-1/#comment-7890</link>
		<dc:creator>IP protection and Open Innovation can work together (if you do it right). &#171; Innovation Leadership Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 02:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of value that may become a &#8216;blockbuster&#8217; product. However, as Tim has observed before, a patent is not a business model and the costs of holding and maintaining all this unproductive IP are staggering. In the US, 99% of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of value that may become a &#8216;blockbuster&#8217; product. However, as Tim has observed before, a patent is not a business model and the costs of holding and maintaining all this unproductive IP are staggering. In the US, 99% of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://timkastelle.org/blog/2010/03/a-patent-is-not-a-business-model/comment-page-1/#comment-5081</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks very much for stopping by and making the comment - and thanks for making the great image too!  (from your standpoint, are you happy with the way you&#039;ve been acknowledged here?  Would you prefer an email or notification? I&#039;m still not quite sure what the etiquette is on the CC pictures)

I&#039;d say that overall I&#039;m in accord with all that you say here.  I&#039;m certainly not arguing against patents - but I do think that a lot of people have an over-reliance on them.

In my classes, if just ask people how they can profit from innovation, all they can think of is patents.  But if I tell them a story first, like how Apple ended up with the Graphical User Interface from Xerox, then ask for ways that the idea could have been better used by Xerox, they come up with tons of ideas.  So I spend a fair bit of time trying to think up creative ways to move people beyond thinking only of patents...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much for stopping by and making the comment &#8211; and thanks for making the great image too!  (from your standpoint, are you happy with the way you&#8217;ve been acknowledged here?  Would you prefer an email or notification? I&#8217;m still not quite sure what the etiquette is on the CC pictures)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that overall I&#8217;m in accord with all that you say here.  I&#8217;m certainly not arguing against patents &#8211; but I do think that a lot of people have an over-reliance on them.</p>
<p>In my classes, if just ask people how they can profit from innovation, all they can think of is patents.  But if I tell them a story first, like how Apple ended up with the Graphical User Interface from Xerox, then ask for ways that the idea could have been better used by Xerox, they come up with tons of ideas.  So I spend a fair bit of time trying to think up creative ways to move people beyond thinking only of patents&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gurdonark</title>
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		<dc:creator>gurdonark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that patents are just possible components of a business model, rather than being models in their own right. I  also agree that commercialization of a business plan involving an innovation (or even merely an idea) need not be through patent enforcement. Even the most rigid patent-advocate theoretically would recognize the utility of the elusive idea/application remaining a trade secret rather than being &quot;traded into&#039; the public domain in return for a limited-term exclusivity.

Beyond, that, though, the open source software movement has shown that voluntary liberal licensing can help foster profits, as in the business model of companies who provide free software but charge for maintaining the system using the software.

On the other hand, though not essential, patent can be very useful in the right situation. I find all too often that the aesthetic/philosophic debate about whether the government should grant exclusive rights to use a technology blurs the issue, as patent enforcement has worked a benefit for those whom the law grants those rights.

I&#039;m deeply in favor of liberally licensed technology,
of companies which recognize that research placed in the public domain can minimize the business risk attached to a competitor&#039;s potential patents, and of research freed from the constraints of a patent system. Here in the USA, I favor patents but want to see them issued only when a right is properly established. I favor a more limited copyright term without the artificial new extensions. I do not favor using trademark law as a patent surrogate.
That said, a patent license can be a very useful thing, and is one path to commercialization.

I&#039;m delighted to see my image in use here. This is just the kind of post I hoped might use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that patents are just possible components of a business model, rather than being models in their own right. I  also agree that commercialization of a business plan involving an innovation (or even merely an idea) need not be through patent enforcement. Even the most rigid patent-advocate theoretically would recognize the utility of the elusive idea/application remaining a trade secret rather than being &#8220;traded into&#8217; the public domain in return for a limited-term exclusivity.</p>
<p>Beyond, that, though, the open source software movement has shown that voluntary liberal licensing can help foster profits, as in the business model of companies who provide free software but charge for maintaining the system using the software.</p>
<p>On the other hand, though not essential, patent can be very useful in the right situation. I find all too often that the aesthetic/philosophic debate about whether the government should grant exclusive rights to use a technology blurs the issue, as patent enforcement has worked a benefit for those whom the law grants those rights.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m deeply in favor of liberally licensed technology,<br />
of companies which recognize that research placed in the public domain can minimize the business risk attached to a competitor&#8217;s potential patents, and of research freed from the constraints of a patent system. Here in the USA, I favor patents but want to see them issued only when a right is properly established. I favor a more limited copyright term without the artificial new extensions. I do not favor using trademark law as a patent surrogate.<br />
That said, a patent license can be a very useful thing, and is one path to commercialization.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m delighted to see my image in use here. This is just the kind of post I hoped might use it.</p>
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		<title>By: What Open Innovation Is Not &#171; Innovation &#171; Innovation Leadership Network</title>
		<link>http://timkastelle.org/blog/2010/03/a-patent-is-not-a-business-model/comment-page-1/#comment-4720</link>
		<dc:creator>What Open Innovation Is Not &#171; Innovation &#171; Innovation Leadership Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you&#8217;ve been reading Tim&#8217;s thoughts on patents or my post on the evidence for the Gollum effect of IP being a barrier to innovation, you can [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for stopping by and making the comment Kendall.  I&#039;m glad that the post rings true to you since you have so much direct experience with the issue.  It is always a difficult idea to get across to my classes - particularly because a lot of the discussion of &#039;commercialisation&#039; around here ends at getting patents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by and making the comment Kendall.  I&#8217;m glad that the post rings true to you since you have so much direct experience with the issue.  It is always a difficult idea to get across to my classes &#8211; particularly because a lot of the discussion of &#8216;commercialisation&#8217; around here ends at getting patents.</p>
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		<title>By: Kendall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kendall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Tim. I am an attorney who specializes in intellectual property and contracts and run into this problem often when someone gets an issued patent.  They immediately ask--now how do we make money off the patent?

My immediate question is: why in the hell did you patent something without understanding the answer to that question BEFORE you filed?

In the end, having an exclusive right to do (or in the case of patents, to prevent from doing)/have/use something is only worth $$ if someone has a reason to want to do that something.  Educating the market and tapping into demand for an idea is where the heavy lifting happens. 

Even if an inventor chooses not to run a company and build the product him/herself,  I rarely see a &quot;naked&quot; patent license unless it is a result of expensive and wasteful litigation.  

As a result, even inventors that want to work from home need to think about how to supplement any patent rights with practical advice/hands-on consulting on how to build and commercialize the patented idea.  As a result, more than ever, inventors need collaboration partners to help fill the gaps between idea and execution.  Without it, you may have a patent, but it may not protect anything of value. 

Thanks for the post. 

Kendall
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Tim. I am an attorney who specializes in intellectual property and contracts and run into this problem often when someone gets an issued patent.  They immediately ask&#8211;now how do we make money off the patent?</p>
<p>My immediate question is: why in the hell did you patent something without understanding the answer to that question BEFORE you filed?</p>
<p>In the end, having an exclusive right to do (or in the case of patents, to prevent from doing)/have/use something is only worth $$ if someone has a reason to want to do that something.  Educating the market and tapping into demand for an idea is where the heavy lifting happens. </p>
<p>Even if an inventor chooses not to run a company and build the product him/herself,  I rarely see a &#8220;naked&#8221; patent license unless it is a result of expensive and wasteful litigation.  </p>
<p>As a result, even inventors that want to work from home need to think about how to supplement any patent rights with practical advice/hands-on consulting on how to build and commercialize the patented idea.  As a result, more than ever, inventors need collaboration partners to help fill the gaps between idea and execution.  Without it, you may have a patent, but it may not protect anything of value. </p>
<p>Thanks for the post. </p>
<p>Kendall<br />
@ideasurge</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the thoughtful comment Steve! I think that is a pretty nice way of looking at patents.  My main point is that firms shouldn&#039;t treat them as a goal in and of themselves, which I think is compatible with what you&#039;ve said.  Thanks again for stopping by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thoughtful comment Steve! I think that is a pretty nice way of looking at patents.  My main point is that firms shouldn&#8217;t treat them as a goal in and of themselves, which I think is compatible with what you&#8217;ve said.  Thanks again for stopping by.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Holcombe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Holcombe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A patent is a government issued security instrument. The value of the patent is variable based upon a myriad of considerations. Enforceability varies from country to country. Value varies in relation to the ROI business models and the economies to which those models are applied. Value varies in relation to the knowledge base being addressed (if the aren&#039;t conversant with patents, they aren&#039;t conversant). Value varies in relation to the ideological base being addressed ( if they are anti-patent, the patent may actually have a value less than zero!). Yes, patents are a security. They are not a business model. But they can also be viewed as a window into the soul of company. They can reveal how disciplined the inventors are about their invention. There are well written patent claims and there are poorly written patent claims. There are patent claims prepared by top of the line legal talent and others not so much. Did the inventors understand that one gets what they pay for? Or did they just think that getting a piece of paper that said &#039;patent&#039; on it was enough? Patents are securities. And they are a kind of open, public diary about the minds of the inventors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A patent is a government issued security instrument. The value of the patent is variable based upon a myriad of considerations. Enforceability varies from country to country. Value varies in relation to the ROI business models and the economies to which those models are applied. Value varies in relation to the knowledge base being addressed (if the aren&#8217;t conversant with patents, they aren&#8217;t conversant). Value varies in relation to the ideological base being addressed ( if they are anti-patent, the patent may actually have a value less than zero!). Yes, patents are a security. They are not a business model. But they can also be viewed as a window into the soul of company. They can reveal how disciplined the inventors are about their invention. There are well written patent claims and there are poorly written patent claims. There are patent claims prepared by top of the line legal talent and others not so much. Did the inventors understand that one gets what they pay for? Or did they just think that getting a piece of paper that said &#8216;patent&#8217; on it was enough? Patents are securities. And they are a kind of open, public diary about the minds of the inventors.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam MacAulay</title>
		<link>http://timkastelle.org/blog/2010/03/a-patent-is-not-a-business-model/comment-page-1/#comment-4647</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam MacAulay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely!  

If we rustle up a few more of these we&#039;d have all the ingredients necessary to host a &quot;list-athon&quot;!  :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely!  </p>
<p>If we rustle up a few more of these we&#8217;d have all the ingredients necessary to host a &#8220;list-athon&#8221;!  <img src='http://timkastelle.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be a good one Sam, and so would &quot;how to profit from ideas without patents.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be a good one Sam, and so would &#8220;how to profit from ideas without patents.&#8221;</p>
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