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		<title>Those That Get It Don&#8217;t Need It, and Those That Need It Don&#8217;t Get It</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2016 07:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Kastelle</dc:creator>
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				<description><![CDATA[An innovation paradox. When we have a new idea that we're trying to spread, we face a paradox: those that get it don't need it, and those that need it don't get it. Breaking this paradox is the key to getting our ideas adopted.]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s a paradox.</p>
<p><a href="http://timkastelle.org/?attachment_id=9580#main" rel="attachment wp-att-9580"><img data-recalc-dims="1" fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" data-attachment-id="9580" data-permalink="https://timkastelle.org/blog/2016/12/those-that-get-it-dont-need-it-and-those-that-need-it-dont-get-it/getneed1/#main" data-orig-file="https://i0.wp.com/timkastelle.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/GetNeed1-e1482911038843.jpeg?fit=800%2C540&amp;ssl=1" data-orig-size="800,540" data-comments-opened="1" data-image-meta="{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}" data-image-title="GetNeed1" data-image-description="" data-image-caption="" data-medium-file="https://i0.wp.com/timkastelle.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/GetNeed1-e1482911038843.jpeg?fit=300%2C203&amp;ssl=1" data-large-file="https://i0.wp.com/timkastelle.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/GetNeed1-e1482911038843.jpeg?fit=760%2C513&amp;ssl=1" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-9580" src="https://i0.wp.com/timkastelle.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/GetNeed1-1024x691.jpeg?resize=760%2C513" alt="" width="760" height="513" /></a></p>
<p>This leads to problems for people that have new ideas.</p>
<p><strong>Problem 1a: you end up talking to the wrong people.</strong> It is easiest to talk to the people that get it &#8211; even though they don&#8217;t need your idea. <a href="http://timkastelle.org/blog/2012/12/your-competition-is-never-no-one/" target="_blank">Back in my startup days</a>, we often went to First Tuesday in Brisbane to try to build our network. We&#8217;d talk to all the other local startups about the problems that we shared, and it was great &#8211; they really got it!</p>
<p>Did it help us build our business? No. No, it did not.</p>
<p>We were talking to the people that were easy to talk to &#8211; the ones that got it. But they didn&#8217;t need what we had built. To grow a business we had to talk to the people that needed our ideas. That was a lot harder. It was frustrating, and difficult. Mainly because:</p>
<p><strong>Problem 1b: you might be solving a problem that people don&#8217;t yet realise they have. </strong>This problem is the opposite of the first one. This makes it really hard to talk to them, because when they hear your idea, they&#8217;ll hate it.</p>
<p>When this happens a lot, you&#8217;re in what Seth Godin calls the <a href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2016/05/beware-the-gulf-of-disapproval.html" target="_blank">Gulf of Disapproval</a>:<br />
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<p>Here&#8217;s what he says:</p>
<blockquote><p>Start at the left. Your new idea, your proposal to the company, your new venture, your innovation—no one knows about it.</p>
<p>As you begin to promote it, most of the people (the red line) who hear about it don&#8217;t get it. They think it&#8217;s a risky scheme, a solution to a problem no one has or that it&#8217;s too expensive. Or some combination of the three.</p></blockquote>
<p>They need your idea, but they don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>The key to solving this paradox is to find the small number of people that will get it and that need it. Even for huge breakthrough ideas, <a href="http://timkastelle.org/blog/2016/01/how-big-is-your-market-and-where-will-you-start/" target="_blank">this original group is usually pretty small</a>.</p>
<p>These people are the blue line in Godin&#8217;s drawing.</p>
<p>Here is <a href="https://steveblank.com/2010/03/04/perfection-by-subtraction-the-minimum-feature-set/" target="_blank">how Steve Blank describes them</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Earlyvangelists are a special breed of customers willing to take a risk on your startup’s product or service. They can actually envision its potential to solve a critical and immediate problem—and they have the budget to purchase it. Unfortunately, most customers don’t fit this profile.</p>
<p>Earlyvangelists can be identified by these characteristics:</p>
<ul>
<li>They have a problem.</li>
<li>They understand they have a problem.</li>
<li>They are actively searching for a solution and has a timetable for finding it.</li>
<li>The problem is painful enough that they have cobbled together an interim solution.</li>
<li>They have, or can quickly acquire, dollars to purchase the product to solve their problem.</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>How do we find these people? We start by <a href="http://timkastelle.org/blog/2016/02/how-to-make-good-lean-startup-hypotheses/" target="_blank">building a model</a> of who we think they are, and what we think they need. This model is almost certainly wrong. We fix that by going out and <a href="http://timkastelle.org/blog/2016/01/the-how-and-why-of-customer-development/" target="_blank">talking to these people</a> to learn about the problems that they are actively trying to solve.</p>
<p>Because we&#8217;re trying to identify problems, we&#8217;re not pitching during these conversations. We&#8217;re learning. If we do that enough times, we&#8217;ll figure out what a small group of people really need right now, and, with luck, we can build it for them.</p>
<p>People usually can&#8217;t explain what they need, especially if the idea is genuinely new. So you need to look for evidence of problems. In my experience, the sign that we&#8217;re really onto something is in Blank&#8217;s fourth point &#8211; when we find people that have already hacked together a solution of their own. This is strong evidence.</p>
<p>It turns out that our two groups of people aren&#8217;t mutually exclusive &#8211; there&#8217;s a small overlap:</p>
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<p>When we have a new idea, our job is to figure out what these people need, who they are, and how to find them. Once we&#8217;ve done this, then more people will start to get the idea, and more people will also start to need it.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the only way to cross the Gulf of Disapproval.</p>

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